RECAP: The Trial of Chad Daybell Day 6

BOISE, Idaho — Day 6 of the trial of Chad Daybell began on April 18. View the live updates from the courtroom below.

LIVE UPDATES:
3:59 pm: Following the trial, Judge Boyce held a hearing to address a filing by attorney Michael Ratliff. Ratliff filed as an "intervener" looking to be involved in the trial. In his filings, Boyce says Ratliff used the wrong form and misspelled several things. Boyce sounds extremely frustrated with Ratliff during this hearing, and after arguing with the attorney, orders him to pay attorney fees to Prior and the State prosecutors for wasting time on an unprecedented matter.

3:15 pm: Judge Boyce sends the courtroom into recess for the day and will continue with Gibb on the stand.

3:14 pm: Prior asks if Gibb was very clear about all of the things Lori told her about Chad, especially the zombies, portals, and dark and light. Gibb says yes.

3:08 pm: Prior asks about the last night Gibb saw JJ. Gibb says she knocked on the door and tried the knob, discovering it was locked. She did not check all of the other doors in the house.

3:05 pm: Gibb says Chad was going with David Warwick and Gibb to look at a piece of property. Gibb assumes that Lori was home with JJ at the time.

3:04 pm: Prior asks Gibb about the LDS conference they attended, Gibb says it was an all-day event on Saturday during the trip.

3:00 pm: Gibb says that either the evening that she arrived or the next evening was when she first saw Chad on the trip. They walked with Lori on the BYU campus.

2:58 pm: Prior asks Gibb about when she went to Rexburg to visit Chad and Lori. Gibb says she is not 100% clear on the timeline of that visit.

2:57 pm: Gibb says lying to the police was a difficult moment for her.

2:56 pm: Prior asks if Gibb lied to the police about JJ's whereabouts, she says yes. He continues, asking how it played out that she decided to come clean, Gibb says she went to them personally.

2:53 pm: Prior says in the recording of the phone call that many of the responses are singular, referring to Lori acting alone in moving JJ by saying "I had to move him" not "We had to move him." Gibb agrees.

2:52 pm: Prior asks if she is relying on Lori Vallow's assertion that Chad was the source of the light and dark ideas, the zombies, and the portals. Gibb says yes.

2:51 pm: Prior says that most of the information on portals and zombies was conveyed to her by Lori, Gibb agrees.

2:50 pm: Prior continues to question Gibb, who says that the ways Chad and Lori referred to light and dark would not be considered regular within the LDS church.

2:44 pm: Judge Boyce explains that the jurors have been instructed to disregard the document that was accidentally posted to the courtroom projector from Prior's computer. Boyce also warns Prior to respect the bailiffs following a comment he made telling a bailiff not to touch his computer.

2:38 pm: Judge Boyce returns from the recess, looking to clarify some things before the jurors enter the courtroom. The terms referencing Lori Vallow's name in exhibits are being redacted to ensure the decided case of Lori Vallow doesn't connect with this trial.

2:15 pm: Judge Boyce calls for a 20-minute afternoon recess.

2:13 pm: Gibb says she was aware that Lori received life insurance money after Joseph Ryan's death. Boyce calls for a sidebar.

2:09 pm: Prior asks if Gibb was aware of the divorce proceedings filed by Charles, and that Lori and Charles later decided to try and reconcile, to fix their marriage.

2:08 pm: Gibb says she has discussed these same events so much now that it is less likely to be forgotten.

2:07 pm: Judge Boyce sustains several objections by Blake to Prior's argumentative questioning line.

2:06 pm: Prior asks if Gibb is suffering from being forgetful in her testimony today, Gibb says it's tough to say.

2:03 pm: Prior asks what Gibb's relationship was with Tylee, asking if it was negative, Gibb says that there was no relationship between them.

2:01 pm: Prior asks Gibb about where she met Lori. Gibb was teaching a class about nutrition and health. Prior accidentally casts something to the court projector but it is difficult to tell what it was. Judge Boyce warns Prior to be careful in the future. Nate Eaton with East Idaho News was in the courtroom and said the following about the event:

1:50 pm: Prior says there was some kind of relationship forged between Gibb and Wood during the communication, Gibb says that wasn't the case.

1:48 pm: Prior reads the text, which says "Keith, the guy from Dateline, and I want to make sure the church is protected. He has done a good job so far. That's why I feel comfortable talking with him." Gibb says that she felt comfortable telling Rob Wood this and letting him know what she was doing.

1:44 pm: Prior shows Gibb a message she sent to Wood. Prior asks again and asks if Gibb said she wanted to make sure the LDS church was protected, she says that was not her intention, though it appears her message indicates that she wanted to keep the LDS church protected.

1:43 pm: Prior asks Gibb about her communication with prosecuting attorney Rob Wood, asking if Gibb was protecting a person or organization as part of whether or not she would testify, Gibb says her intent was not to protect anyone, and that she was just looking to share what she knew.

1:33 pm: Prior asks Gibb about a TV interview she gave speaking to Nate Eaton from East Idaho News.

1:32 pm: Prior asks Gibb about her book Feel the Fire, which Gibb says she began to write around the time that she met Lori.

1:31 pm: Gibb confirms that she doesn't have a great memory of dates, times, and names. Priors thanks her for admitting this.

1:29 pm: Prior asks if the discussion of light and dark is a part of the LDS faith, Gibb says it is inconsistent with the faith. Prior asks if Gibb ever taught about the light and dark theories to others, Gibb says it's possible.

1:28 pm: Prior asks Gibb to explain what vibrations are and asks if the frequencies she is receiving give her any revelations about anything in this situation, Gibb says no.

1:26 pm: Prior asks Gibb if the visions Chad had about Tammy's death being imminent, asking if these could be in line with the more commonly practiced faith.

1:20 pm: Blake has no further questions, now Prior is questioning Gibb. He begins by asking her if premonitions or visions are an aspect of the LDS faith, Gibb says the church believes people can have those kinds of experiences.

1:15 pm: Blake asks Gibb if she discussed the beliefs of evil spirits and possessions with Alex Cox. Gibb says Alex 100% believed that the stories of zombies were really true.

1:06 pm: The courtroom livestream returns following the lunch recess.

11:59 am: Judge Boyce calls for a lunch recess. The courtroom livestream should return by 1:00 pm.

11:58 am: Gibb says she was open to some of the beliefs expressed by Chad and Lori but that she did not fully believe them.

11:57 am: Gibb says that Chad told people Tammy was sick and that she was going to die early and he would have two parts two his life. Gibb says Chad shared this long before Tammy's death.

11:56 am: Our partners at East Idaho News have uploaded a copy of the call that was just played for the courtroom, available below:

11:55 am: Lori never explained to Gibb what she meant when she said JJ was safe and happy on the call.

11:54 am: Gibb says Lori believed that people were after her because they were dark, something Gibb says Chad would designate.

11:53 am: Gibb says they sounded like they were in good moods at the start of the call even though JJ was missing.

11:52 am: Lori and Gibb's call disconnects after they argue about the situation.

11:47 am: Gibb says Lori's salvation is in trouble because of her actions. Lori says Joseph Smith was also turned on by his friends.

11:45 am: Gibb says she was reading the story of Korihor and his plague of natural desires, comparing Lori to Korihor. Lori is audibly aggravated, asking how Gibb could think those things about her. Gibb references the dark portals and says if Lori had not engaged with that, God would have protected her.

11:44 am: Chad says that he can understand Gibb's concern, Lori interrupts and says she can't understand given the information Gibb has.

11:43 am: Chad says that Tammy "just passed away" and says that the conspiracy theories make him sick.

11:42 am: Chad says he knows that there are people who have their theories about everything and says they just aren't true.

11:41 am: Gibb says all of the death surrounding the couple "doesn't seem like God's plan"." Lori says that this doesn't sound like Gibb and says she might be influenced by something dark.

11:39 am: Lori says Gibb knows Kay is dark, Gibb says she does not know her well enough. Lori accused Gibb of "recording the call for the police or something." Lori says she loves Gibb, Gibb says if she did Lori would not have told the police that she had JJ.

11:36 am: Lori says she knows exactly where JJ is. Gibb offers the two a scripture, Lori is combative at first. Gibb later reads the scripture, emphasizing that obedience to the Lord will protect them but that God doesn't work in darkness. Lori says that is 100% what God is doing for her and that sometimes you need to "hide in the cavity of a rock."

11:35 am: Lori says the police are working with Kay in some dark capacity. Lori says Kay has been threatening her.

11:34 am: Lori says she isn't telling anyone where JJ is so that nobody is put in the position to reveal it to the police. Gibb tells the pair what Alex told her, about her not wanting to know where JJ is. Lori says nobody should worry about it and that she doesn't know why Alex said that.

11:33 am: Gibb asks why Lori said JJ was with her, Lori says her family is working with Kay to get JJ so she had to lie. Lori then says JJ is safe and happy.

11:32 am: Lori says she had to move JJ somewhere else because of Kay. Lori says there are people after her and that they are worried and trying to keep him protected.

11:31 am: Chad answers the phone and puts it on speaker, revealing that Lori is there. Gibb asks where they are, the couple say they are not in Idaho. Gibb then asks about JJ going to Kay's house and asks where he went.

11:29 am: In the recording, Gibb says she is calling Chad's phone and says she hopes to talk to both Lori and Chad.

11:24 am: Gibb made a phone call to Lori on Dec. 8. She recorded the call. Lindsey Blake moves to admit the call, which will be played for the courtroom.

11:23 am: Gibb spoke with Alex Cox about her concerns with the situation shortly after Thanksgiving. Gibb asked if she wanted to know where JJ was and Alex said no.

11:20 am: Gibb eventually called officers again and came clean about JJ's whereabouts. Prior whispers with Chad while Gibb describes this.

11:18 am: Gibb avoided police calls initially, but eventually she called law enforcement and told them she had given JJ back to Lori, complying with the lie.

11:16 am: Lori called Gibb later, saying that she was protecting Tylee and JJ. Lori asked Gibb to go to a movie theater and take a picture to appear like she was out with JJ.

11:15 am: Gibb says Chad called her, warning her about an investigation and asking her not to speak to Rexburg Police about JJ. Chad told Gibb that Lori told the officers that Gibb had JJ.

11:14 am: Gibb never heard JJ in the background of call with Lori again following the visit.

11:12 am: Lori told Gibb that she had given JJ back to his grandmother at some time after Sept. 22.

11:11 am: Lori also discussed struggles with JJ, telling Gibb he was acting out more and acting like he was possessed.

11:10 am: Lori told Gibb about the money she was receiving from Social Security.

11:09 am: Gibb says she never saw JJ again.

11:08 am: Gibb tried to call Chad when David woke up in a panic, she wanted Chad to give him a priesthood blessing. Lori and Chad both did not respond to contact, and their door was locked when she checked.

11:02 am: Lori told Gibb that Sept. 22 was a significant day, the day she saw Moronai in the Temple. This was also the last time Gibb saw JJ. JJ did not sleep in his bedroom that night. She was moved from Tylee's room to JJ's room to spend time with David Warwick, who was staying at the house as well.

11:00 am: Gibb says she saw Chad take JJ upstairs for a while when JJ was upset, Chad returned with a red scratch on his neck which Chad then said was from JJ.

10:58 am: Gibb stayed in Tylee's room when she stayed with Lori. None of Tylee's belongings were in her room, and Lori did not talk about Tylee during the visit. Gibb did not see Tylee on the visit. During the trip, Lori said the JJ, like Tylee before him, had turned dark. Gibb believes Chad told her this.

10:56 am: Gibb stayed with Lori in Idaho to record a podcast. During that weekend, Alex and JJ were present, David Warwick and Chad were also there on occasion. Warwick is now Melanie's husband.

10:56 am: Gibb says she talked to Lori on the phone after the move to Idaho, she says Alex and Tylee were audible in the background playing a game during the call.

10:55 am: Gibb says Lori moved to Idaho with JJ, Tylee, and Alex after Charles was killed.

10:53 am: Gibb says Chad was the source for the dark and light ratings Lori talked about. Lori told Gibb that Tylee was dark.

10:53 am: Gibb says Tammy was still alive when Lori went to Idaho to live with Chad.

10:52 am: Gibb says Lori told her that she wanted to move to Rexburg to live with Chad.

10:49 am: Gibb says Lori shared the names she and Chad had in past lives. Gibb can't remember the names but says Lori was married to Moroni, the apostle James who she believed to be Chad, and that in another life they were father and daughter. Many past lives with various biblical figures. Gibb says Chad was responsible for these ideas. Gibb says she saw Lori's "portal" which was really just her closet. Gibb says Chad told her about the portals first as well.

10:48 am: Gibb says Lori told her that Chad also had a phone just for her.

10:47 am: Gibb says she saw 3 of Lori's phones. Gibb was told that one of the phones was specifically to communicate with Chad.

10:42 am: The courtroom livestream is back online following the morning recess.

10:00 am: Judge Boyce calls for a morning recess, the stream should resume in 30 minutes.

9:59 am: Tammy was still alive when Lori and Chad discussed their plans together, again, just days after Charles' death.

9:58 am: Gibb says that just a few days after Charles' death, Chad was staying with Lori.

9:57 am: Gibb says that Lori seemed happy when they discussed Charles' death.

9:54 am: Gibb says Alex was designated as Lori's protector by Chad. Gibb says she talked to Lori about Charles' death a few days after the event.

9:53 am: Gibb says she was never told that there would be violence involved.

9:50 am: Chad shakes his head as Gibb says he was present during "castings" to remove the evil spirits from both Charles and Brandon Boudreaux.

9:47 am: Gibb says it was Chad who told Lori that Ned Schneider left Charles' body and that another dark spirit had possessed his body.

9:46 am: Lori told Gibb that she had a dream where Charles died in a car crash and that, after this dream, Lori believed he had turned dark.

9:44 am: Gibb says that Lori believed that when a person became dark, their soul would move on to the spirit world while their body would remain on Earth, possessed.

9:43 am: Gibb says Lori was told by Chad that people could become possessed, making them "dark or light."

9:41 am: Gibb says that Lori shared the light and dark teachings from Chad with other people. Chad shared these teachings with Zulema, Cox, herself, and others. Chad is taking notes in the courtroom as Gibb testifies.

9:38 am: Gibb explains that people were designated a number and an "L" or "D" for light or dark. The numbers and letters originated from Chad according to Gibb.

9:36 am: Gibb explains Lori's "light and dark" language, clarifying that people who were "dark" made contact with the devil. Gibb says Chad and Lori had discussed this.

9:34 am: Gibb says that Chad stayed at Lori's house during the conference in Arizona during the conference.

9:33 am: Lori told Gibb that she and Chad were going to be resealed in the temple, Charles and Tammy were both still alive.

9:31 am: Gibb says Lori talked about going to Temple with Chad in Arizona when he was in town for a conference.

9:28 am: Gibb is asked about how she met Chad and discussions she had with Lori about him. Lori said to Gibb that she and Chad discussed multiple lives and believed that Lori had married Moroni in a previous life.

9:27 am: Melanie Gibb, friend of Lori Vallow's, takes the stand to be questioned by Lindsey Blake.

9:26 am: Wood has no further questions and Douglass is released from the stand.

9:24 am: Douglass says that Chad was aware that Lori was receiving $4,000 in Social Security. Wood follows up with questions about Chad's purchases of "burner phones," asking if that would be a good way to hide a crime. Douglass says it would.

9:23 am: Prior has no further questions for Douglass and Wood begins his redirect, asking Douglass if he has seen pictures from Chad and Lori's wedding. Douglass says yes, explaining that they were wearing the malachite rings purchased earlier.

9:20 am: Prior asks Douglass about who increased the life insurance policy for Tammy ahead of her death, he says he was not there and doesn't know.

9:02 am: Prior shows an exhibit that documents JJ's financial timeline. He asks Douglass if there is an indication that Chad and Lori discussed the insurance money from Charles Vallow, Douglass says there is no indication of that.

8:58 am: Prior asks Douglass if he is implying that Chad was involved in the death of Charles Vallow, reminding him that he is not being charged with anything in relation to that event.

8:52 am: Prior now questions Douglass. Douglass confirms that there is no indication that Chad and Lori co-mingled their money.

8:40 am: FBI Forensic Accountant Michael Douglass returns to the stand. Wood finishes brief questions about purchases made by Lori with the Social Security benefits for Tylee and JJ.